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I see, thank you for the information Mr Murthy. I find this quite extraordinary.
I would still like to hear the official stance on this from the horses mouth as it were though, just so there is no confusion of the way things work here from the top down.

Mr Girilal, I have come to the conclusion, from your behaviour since I arrived here, and especially from your posts above, that you are without doubt completely insane, and as such I will not be responding to anymore of your odd ramblings.

It troubles me greatly that people place care of their health in the hands of those such as yourself and your apparent sidekick Mr Varma, as you obviously both have some very deep seated issues of your own to be worked through before trying to address those of others.

As for being 'good at borrowing', I am afraid this is not something I am familiar with, as I believe everyone should look after themselves, or be assisted in achieving this rather than relying upon others, maybe this is a class (or caste?) thing, I do not know.

Either way, my communication with both yourself, and your apparent sidekick has now reached an end. I am here only to help those in need, not engage in insane discourse with those who claim to be practitioners but who should be recieving treatment themselves.

I wish you well, and hope you receive the care you require.

Cordial.

From what I have seen since I arrived here, there are only two people who are playing games and trying to interrupt the treatment of patients, and this is unfortunate. The rest of us are indeed 'taking thing more seriously', and trying to provide care. Maybe it is they specifically who should be addressed.

That is an offensive statement Dr. Organon....which you made to Girilal.

This is not a homeopathy school. It is a Forum.

On another thread I have welcomed you provided you are a genuine guy. Coz we like straight forward guys here.

The skills of all prescribers may not match. But the important thing is dedication. Some guys are here for ulterior motives...to them we object !!

See their postings in the archives. Today...they may pose as gentlemen....but in the past they did a lot of damage....so the meemory doesn't fade away quickly.

Pankaj Varma

This forum has become more vibrant attracting lot many new presribers, other than the quartet of erstwhile 'resident ' prescribers.

That is simply the cause of 'heart burn' as they were thrown down the lofty pedestal they themselves assumed to stand upon.

The reality has become unpalatable, and hence they keep on initiating these petty quarrels once in a while and keep wondering how good were the good olden days.

Fortunately the worst was over, and now all of us are trying to have co existence despite difference of opinions.

Since you re new here, I am providing you the background information in a nutshell.

It will take hell of a time to go through th archives and understand all this.

Murthy

'Cordial. From what I have seen since I arrived here, there are only two people who are playing games and trying to interrupt the treatment of patients, and this is unfortunate. The rest of us are indeed 'taking thing more seriously', and trying to provide care. Maybe it is they specifically who should be addressed.'

Organon, Since you addressed me specifically, I will adress what I as a newcomer see here. I understand there to be at least 4 who have been critical of each other or maybe 3 who are crtical of 1 person. I have addressed this personality issue in another post found here: http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/131337/2
I also did some reading and know that they are justfied in their feelings about gm.

And Pankaj Varma seems to always stay within the bounds of courtesy. He is right that if you use the name 'Dr.' we all have a right to know your background and training, otherwise it is unethical (not to mention illegal) to represent yourself as such.

G is out of order as is gm. Kick me off for this if you will. I'm not getting my specific questions answered anyway. I am about to dose my litle boy. God help him if I prove this remedy. :-(

Gavin Murthy wrote in another thread: 'However, since you are not comfortable with me, which I guess from the tone of a couple of your posts, I am hesitating to give you the required information.'

I do not think it is neccessarily the tone of my posts but my outright admission that I agree with some of the criticism directed at you. I have seen enough to understand some of what is going on. I have also seen posts on other forums where you tried to discredit doctors.

I think you do this because you are insecure and lack self-esteem. Somehow in your life you are not as sucessful, important or looked up to as you would like. I sense that you want to be liked, to be loved. And that you do not love yourself. Find something that you are really good at and devote yourself, mind, body and soul to it. At the same time, beging to love yourself. There is no other human being on the face of this earth exactly like you. Do you realize that!? Help others, and extend to others love at all time and it will be returned to you 10 times over. Start with yourself and the people closest to you who you are around in everyday life. If you are alone, start with the clerk at the grovery store. Greet her/him with cheer and joy. Go for a walk where there are others you will pass on your way. Smile as you walk. Greet each person you pass with a friendly 'Hello, how are you?' If they ask how you are reply, 'Fine, thanks, and you?' Make these little efforts for the rest of your life.

Hi Cordial

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I think you are refering to Giri and me. We are the most reasonable people here, who make mistakes and accept them too. :-)

Murthy

I think also that it can be seen as trying to discredit other people and contradict their advice in an autoritative tone. I feel it is more constructive to disagree and cite your reasons in a respectful manner and tone.

I myself find that I do not agree with 'discontine the remedy if you find any troublesome symptoms.' Here's my reason. Often when you are working through a remedy you find that sometimes the symptoms pop up and make other things happen, like skin eruptions can occur for example; or you can have the symptoms work backwards to the cure, things like that. It doesn't mean to discontinue the rememdy, neccessarily. Maybe it means report to the homeopath(s) what is happening when you are being treated. My homeopath has me keep notes and report at 1 week and at 4 weeks.

Yes. You have a very vallid point there. I will change my advice suitably in future.

Murthy

M: Was anything else I said to you above correct?

Yes. Some of it.

but you perhaps missed the point that I react only when I am provoked.

Murthy

Gavini...a few times I told you to reflect...not react.

Even people around you will feel better.

Pankaj Varma

Yes. I do reflect after I react. :-)

Murthy

'Yes. I do reflect after I react. :-)'

Me too.

Then we can see eye to eye and be friends. :-)

Murthy

Of course we are friends. I would have it no other way.

By that time the damage is done...

Every time you try to answer something..ask your self:

'Am I going to do something for which I will regret later ?'

And also think...the other guy has children, wife and friends just like you !! ..whom he loves...just like you love your children, wife and friends.

Also ask:
'Will they appreciate what I am going to do to him !!'

The right answer will come from with in you....

Take care.

Pankaj Varma

Advice taken.

Hi Pankaj

Tell me frankly. Don't you see any change in me in the past one year?

Murthy

The background on such ridiculous behaviour is of no concern to me. My only concern is how two grown men who are supposed to be professionals decided to try and goad a complete stranger into argument, with ridiculously transparent underhand comments, and continual goading, and moreover complete disregard for those here seeking help, just to maintain a degree of power and control over an internet forum. I have never witnessed such idiotic behaviour by Homoeopaths in my life, and it troubles me that this is freely allowed here, for reasons so far unknown, but reasons I intend to find out.

As for coexistence, I have no desire to coexist with such morally reprehensible, ego driven, and spiritually bereft people as I have seen here. As stated, my only concern is patients, and it is them I will be concentrating my efforts on, as I have tried to since arriving.

Yes Dear Gavini...I have seen the changes. And it takes courage to admit in the first place that 'I need to change'. I appreciate that too.

And I appreciate the gain in knowledge of homeopathy you have accomplised from the day you came to ABC and today.

As Sai Baba devotee I cannot be against anyone....I have to be answerable to Sai Baba for my conduct.

Let us all work together for the benefit of humanity....whatever we can do with in our given resources.

Best wishes
Pankaj Varma

Giri

Many times posters deliberately mislead about their country on internet, which is as common as assuming pseudo names.

Some don't want to reveal their true identity. You too confuse people with many names,also by saying that you are posting from a place, while in fact you are posting from a different place.

Anyway, that really doesn't matter. The quality of his advices is all that matter.

Murthy

Dear Pankaj

whenever we have difference of opinions on the subject of homeopathy,we should be able discuss on points without rising personal issues/comments. Then all will be well.

For my part I will try to be restrained.

Murthy