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Dear Pankaj
whenever we have difference of opinions on the subject of homeopathy,we should be able discuss on points without rising personal issues/comments. Then all will be well.
For my part I will try to be restrained.
Murthy
whenever we have difference of opinions on the subject of homeopathy,we should be able discuss on points without rising personal issues/comments. Then all will be well.
For my part I will try to be restrained.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Dear Gavini, I made a post at that website and I said I am from North Brunswick. I know some computer programming and it is easy to do it. Jacob is also from UK. He you and Organon used the world mongrel. In my life only I heard this word only three times.
♡ girilal last decade
Giri
Mongrel is the choicest epithet Hahn used many times against those who mix therapies.
It is no wonder you hear the word only from those who studied Hahn. in depth.
Why do you people keep on refering to Jacob?
Murthy
Mongrel is the choicest epithet Hahn used many times against those who mix therapies.
It is no wonder you hear the word only from those who studied Hahn. in depth.
Why do you people keep on refering to Jacob?
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
It appears you are right. In the times of Hahn, whole medicine was based upon symptomatology. In general medicine evolved and now it is at the zenith except for the philosophers.
But Homeopathy stayed with symptoms, instead of evolving. A new school is needed that proves medicine for things like Joe discovered Arnica is for circulation.
But Homeopathy stayed with symptoms, instead of evolving. A new school is needed that proves medicine for things like Joe discovered Arnica is for circulation.
♡ girilal last decade
How can Homoeopathy ever be based upon anything other than symptoms, when it is those produced by a substance we match to those of the patient to affect cure? This is really the most basic of Homoeopathic principles.
I think you maybe confusing evolution with DEvolution Mr Girilal.
...and I do hope you are not referring to Joe De Levira.
I think you maybe confusing evolution with DEvolution Mr Girilal.
...and I do hope you are not referring to Joe De Levira.
Dr Organon last decade
Wow! Doctor I can never match a person with sulfur or lachesis, I can't. It is not logical and scientist.
♡ girilal last decade
evolution with DEvolution. There is no Devolution. Whatever happens -- it only evolves. Devolution word is fake.
♡ girilal last decade
Um, if you are serious, which I would find hard to believe, then you have no understanding of how to precribe remedies at all it would seem, which would explain why you are so quick to reject the founding principles of the entire system.
Dr Organon last decade
The ultimate aim is to take away pain from the patient....whether we use pathy A, or pathy B, or pathy C.
We talk of giving complete cure to the patient through homeopathy....the Allopaths call ita joke.
We call them a joke.
The patient is unmoved by our arguments....until a particular pathy brings him relief / total cure.
All homeopaths know that Arnica works wonders with blood circualtion. Joe did not discover it. He only propogated its benefits to the fullest extreme. He didn't do anything wrong about that.
He just branched out. So why jeer at him. If you do that....the joke is on you.
People will begin to assume that you don't have the knowledge of the drug picture of Arnica.
Best wishes
Pankaj Varma
We talk of giving complete cure to the patient through homeopathy....the Allopaths call ita joke.
We call them a joke.
The patient is unmoved by our arguments....until a particular pathy brings him relief / total cure.
All homeopaths know that Arnica works wonders with blood circualtion. Joe did not discover it. He only propogated its benefits to the fullest extreme. He didn't do anything wrong about that.
He just branched out. So why jeer at him. If you do that....the joke is on you.
People will begin to assume that you don't have the knowledge of the drug picture of Arnica.
Best wishes
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
First objective is to prove the patient that homeopathy works.
To tell the patient that homeopathy is simple and beautiful. To tell the patient that homeopath is not a heavyduty, cumborsome and unscientific and false philosophy.
Once patient knows that homeopathy dose work, he/she can learn more about it.
To tell the patient that homeopathy is simple and beautiful. To tell the patient that homeopath is not a heavyduty, cumborsome and unscientific and false philosophy.
Once patient knows that homeopathy dose work, he/she can learn more about it.
♡ girilal last decade
No, the first objective is always to cure the patient There could be very little confusion to the individual as to whether Homoeopathy 'works', if this is achieved.
It is unecessary to tell the patient anything, or for him to learn more about the subject. Cure occurs simply from the application of the similium, not reassurance and education.
It is unecessary to tell the patient anything, or for him to learn more about the subject. Cure occurs simply from the application of the similium, not reassurance and education.
Dr Organon last decade
Organon wrote:
'It is unecessary to tell the patient anything, or for him to learn more about the subject. Cure occurs simply from the application of the similium, not reassurance and education.'
O, I agree with you on your point emphatically, however, I disagree in spirit. I think when you are dealing with people who have no access to your credentials, or your curriculum vitae (cv) if you will, there are numerous divergent points of view or opinions it is extremely helpful to explain your self. One of the problems I have here on this forum is that there are many individuals with just enough knowledge of homeopathy to be dangerous. Let me explain, they know a little, use it fairly often, and can come across as knowledgeable to someone with less background than they, but they could make a big mistake and mess up a complex case. Also, we all have different opinions and philosphies which influence us. When I take a homeopath's advice, I NEED TO KNOW WHY they are rx-ing this and this dosing, why this potency. I'm not just going to take their advice on something without knowing why.
I think most pts today (especially those seeking complementary and alternative medicine CAM) know that they have to be their own advocate and know as much as their health practitioners in order to effect cure. The education is neccessarily helpful for many reasons.
Also, many pts seek CAM becasue of the prevailing attitudes of traditional allopathic practitioners and sterotype of the doctor 'playing God.'
Pts don't come here to have the cure shoved down their throats. Many of them need to be convinced and shown why. And they desserve an explanation.
'It is unecessary to tell the patient anything, or for him to learn more about the subject. Cure occurs simply from the application of the similium, not reassurance and education.'
O, I agree with you on your point emphatically, however, I disagree in spirit. I think when you are dealing with people who have no access to your credentials, or your curriculum vitae (cv) if you will, there are numerous divergent points of view or opinions it is extremely helpful to explain your self. One of the problems I have here on this forum is that there are many individuals with just enough knowledge of homeopathy to be dangerous. Let me explain, they know a little, use it fairly often, and can come across as knowledgeable to someone with less background than they, but they could make a big mistake and mess up a complex case. Also, we all have different opinions and philosphies which influence us. When I take a homeopath's advice, I NEED TO KNOW WHY they are rx-ing this and this dosing, why this potency. I'm not just going to take their advice on something without knowing why.
I think most pts today (especially those seeking complementary and alternative medicine CAM) know that they have to be their own advocate and know as much as their health practitioners in order to effect cure. The education is neccessarily helpful for many reasons.
Also, many pts seek CAM becasue of the prevailing attitudes of traditional allopathic practitioners and sterotype of the doctor 'playing God.'
Pts don't come here to have the cure shoved down their throats. Many of them need to be convinced and shown why. And they desserve an explanation.
Cordial last decade
'O, I agree with you on your point emphatically, however, I disagree in spirit. I think when you are dealing with people who have no access to your credentials, or your curriculum vitae (cv) if you will, there are numerous divergent points of view or opinions it is extremely helpful to explain your self.'
I see, well, I presumed Mr Girilal was referring to actual clinical practice rather than simple online prescribing, so this would not be an issue.
I was also referring to the specific type of information he mentions above, and as OF COURSE it is sometimes necessary to explain our actions to a patient, IF they request this for their own peace of mind. Many, in fact I would say most though do not care either way, they just want to get well.
I see, well, I presumed Mr Girilal was referring to actual clinical practice rather than simple online prescribing, so this would not be an issue.
I was also referring to the specific type of information he mentions above, and as OF COURSE it is sometimes necessary to explain our actions to a patient, IF they request this for their own peace of mind. Many, in fact I would say most though do not care either way, they just want to get well.
Dr Organon last decade
Dear felow Jacob, how come ten homeopaths arrive at the 10 different similums.
Even at the other thread, you are still doubtful if your concluded similums are correct. Whole group is discussing it over again and then again.
A similum should be just one.
Even at the other thread, you are still doubtful if your concluded similums are correct. Whole group is discussing it over again and then again.
A similum should be just one.
♡ girilal last decade
Then after answering the question for other readers, I will not waste my time with you anymore Mr Girilal, as the only reason I was engaging in further conversation with you, was you seem to have stopped your onslaught, and were posting comments of a purely Homoeopathic nature, yet here you are again accusing me of being other people, and I really do not have time for this.
Dr Organon last decade
For other readers then: 'how come ten homeopaths arrive at the 10 different similums.
Even at the other thread, you are still doubtful if your concluded similums are correct. Whole group is discussing it over again and then again.
Similum should be just one and precise.'
Because 10 Homoeopaths will have 10 different perceptions of the case. This is why sometimes consensus is important.
And why wouldn't we be? How can you ascertain a remedy is the similium before it is even given? We can only know the remedy is just this from the patients reaction. It does not simply become the similium 'because we say so', that is not how it works. If you are referring more to our rethinking of the case, then of course new information of an important present condition not previously shared by the patient came to light, should we have just ignored this and carried on regardless?
Of course it should be, but it is not, because no two people think exactly alike, and no two perceptions are therefore the same.
Even at the other thread, you are still doubtful if your concluded similums are correct. Whole group is discussing it over again and then again.
Similum should be just one and precise.'
Because 10 Homoeopaths will have 10 different perceptions of the case. This is why sometimes consensus is important.
And why wouldn't we be? How can you ascertain a remedy is the similium before it is even given? We can only know the remedy is just this from the patients reaction. It does not simply become the similium 'because we say so', that is not how it works. If you are referring more to our rethinking of the case, then of course new information of an important present condition not previously shared by the patient came to light, should we have just ignored this and carried on regardless?
Of course it should be, but it is not, because no two people think exactly alike, and no two perceptions are therefore the same.
Dr Organon last decade
We are discussing nothing 'over and over again' though. A remedy was selected, but the patient chose to seek the advice of a Homoeopath for another condition first, and as stated, this condition was unknown to us at the time of remedy selection, hence the further discussion. I really do not 'get' how this is so hard to understand.
Dr Organon last decade
Dr Organon, thanks for your answers.
I asked this questions because at Hpathy.com most of your post to the patients were brutally edited by other professional homeopathy. I was under the impression that two classical homeopaths never agree.
I asked this questions because at Hpathy.com most of your post to the patients were brutally edited by other professional homeopathy. I was under the impression that two classical homeopaths never agree.
♡ girilal last decade
'I asked this questions because at Hpathy.com most of your post to the patients were brutally edited by other professional homeopath.'
Girilal
Thanks for letting us know this.
I think members of ABC have a right to ask where he has received his 'doctorate in homeopathy' from !!
Girilal
Thanks for letting us know this.
I think members of ABC have a right to ask where he has received his 'doctorate in homeopathy' from !!
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
In all countries using the world Dr. is very restrictive. I am a resident of India and USA, to use doctor word in both countries, one must possess a medical graduation degree or one can use Dr. if one has PhD but in that case PhD word must be used along with Dr.
Hence I asked in the interest of patients.
Hence I asked in the interest of patients.
♡ girilal last decade
Organon, this is true that in almost all countries of the world and certainly in all developed countries of the world, that in order to use the title 'Dr.' you must possess the proper credentials. It is in fact illegal and persons doing so without such credentials are subject to arrest and crimminal prosecution.
In online communities where anonymity is desired one would not use the term 'Dr.' to refer to themselves unless they are not preserving their anonymity or unless in jest as in 'Dr Jazz' or some other nickname.
In online communities where anonymity is desired one would not use the term 'Dr.' to refer to themselves unless they are not preserving their anonymity or unless in jest as in 'Dr Jazz' or some other nickname.
Cordial last decade
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