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Joepathy for gynecomastia
I am going to start my treatment via Joepathy by the end of this week.I will keep posting updates on here.
*Nat Phos 6x dose 2 tablets thrice daily after meals
*Arnica 30c in the Wet dose
Under the care of Dr. Joe De Livera
Earlier case of gynecomastia treated by Joe di Livera:
http://abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/223620/
[message edited by badshah19 on Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:08:32 GMT]
badshah19 on 2011-11-02
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Thanks. Nawaz, I really hope this works. Please remember me in your duaa.
[message edited by badshah19 on Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:23:44 GMT]
[message edited by badshah19 on Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:23:44 GMT]
badshah19 last decade
Well I just read it, thanks silicea. Just awaiting Nat Phos 6x and Arnica 30c now.
I hope I can add one more success story to Joes credit.
[message edited by badshah19 on Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:53:07 GMT]
I hope I can add one more success story to Joes credit.
[message edited by badshah19 on Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:53:07 GMT]
badshah19 last decade
You are welcome! Please rest assured that you are in my prayers. Joe is kindly requested to treat this young man, a victim of circumstances.
♡ nawazkhan last decade
Thanks Nawaz. Do you know anything about Nat Phos being for hormonal imbalances? I read some doctors views on that.
badshah19 last decade
Nawaz
I was compelled to wash my hands of this case as he was a young boy who was too demanding of my time as he was pestering me with inane questions, requesting instant answers from me like the time frame for his cure, before even commencing on my Joepathy.
I deleted all his posts from my Website in utter disgust.
You are welcome to take his case which I shall follow with interest.
I was compelled to wash my hands of this case as he was a young boy who was too demanding of my time as he was pestering me with inane questions, requesting instant answers from me like the time frame for his cure, before even commencing on my Joepathy.
I deleted all his posts from my Website in utter disgust.
You are welcome to take his case which I shall follow with interest.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Badshah, You are always welcome!
Yes, Nat Phos 6X will work on hormonal imbalances. It is indeed the correct remedy for your problem.
Many prayers for your good health.
Regards
Nawaz
Yes, Nat Phos 6X will work on hormonal imbalances. It is indeed the correct remedy for your problem.
Many prayers for your good health.
Regards
Nawaz
♡ nawazkhan last decade
My Dear Respectable Joe,
Thanks a bundle, but, we would like you to treat Badshah. By God willing, he will be cured with your treatment.
Please consider giving him Arnica 200c along with Nat Phos 6X. I am sure Arnica 200C will decrease the size of enlarged glands.
As always, many many prayers for your happy, healthy, peaceful and long life.
Kind Regards
Nawaz
Thanks a bundle, but, we would like you to treat Badshah. By God willing, he will be cured with your treatment.
Please consider giving him Arnica 200c along with Nat Phos 6X. I am sure Arnica 200C will decrease the size of enlarged glands.
As always, many many prayers for your happy, healthy, peaceful and long life.
Kind Regards
Nawaz
♡ nawazkhan last decade
at Joe De Livera;
I am sorry for that Joe sir. I am just young, stupid and deseperate. But why are you being so heartless ?
I am commencing your Joepathy asap. Even if you don't treat me, I will follow your joepathy completely.
at Dr. Nawaz Khan:
Thanks again. As Joe had suggested, I have ordered Arnica 30C and not 200c.
Could I howhever ask the reason for you preferring 200C over 30C for the enlarged glands?
Thanks everyone.
[message edited by badshah19 on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:26:38 GMT]
I am sorry for that Joe sir. I am just young, stupid and deseperate. But why are you being so heartless ?
I am commencing your Joepathy asap. Even if you don't treat me, I will follow your joepathy completely.
at Dr. Nawaz Khan:
Thanks again. As Joe had suggested, I have ordered Arnica 30C and not 200c.
Could I howhever ask the reason for you preferring 200C over 30C for the enlarged glands?
Thanks everyone.
[message edited by badshah19 on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:26:38 GMT]
badshah19 last decade
Please bear with Joe with full respect and trust as he will surely treat you well. Arnica 200C will work on your Gynecomastia to give desired results not the 30C potency according to my knowledge, skill and experience. That's why I have requested Joe to consider 200C.
Please avoid getting into the internals of homoeopathy as it will take a long time for you to understand this complex art and a science. Potency selection is the hardest part in homoeopathy. Joe and I are human beings just like you with a limited time to deal with all patients, make living, deal with evil&negative forces and worship our creator. Therefore, you are kindly requested to limit your unnecessary Q's for a better treatment and to avoid any confusion.
[message edited by nawazkhan on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 16:24:12 GMT]
Please avoid getting into the internals of homoeopathy as it will take a long time for you to understand this complex art and a science. Potency selection is the hardest part in homoeopathy. Joe and I are human beings just like you with a limited time to deal with all patients, make living, deal with evil&negative forces and worship our creator. Therefore, you are kindly requested to limit your unnecessary Q's for a better treatment and to avoid any confusion.
[message edited by nawazkhan on Fri, 04 Nov 2011 16:24:12 GMT]
♡ nawazkhan last decade
Will keep that in mind. I am very unlucky in getting medicine, I always have to wait days before I get one. I ordered it and went to collect it today, they told me to come back early on next week. Sometimes I just lose hope.. This problem also annoys the treating doctors, as much as to me.
Chalein Nawaz sir, lets wait till next week - 3/4 days left.
Chalein Nawaz sir, lets wait till next week - 3/4 days left.
badshah19 last decade
Got both remedies.
I couldn't put 3 Arnica drops in bottle, 4 fell instead. I tried thrice but I couldn't, since the bottle has no space for dropper and you have to turn it around to put drops, out of which some fall pretty fast.
I took two tablets of Nat Phos 15 mins after eating. I tried putting it under my tongue, but it didn't melt away. So I sipped some mineral water and swallowed it.
[message edited by badshah19 on Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:36:01 GMT]
I couldn't put 3 Arnica drops in bottle, 4 fell instead. I tried thrice but I couldn't, since the bottle has no space for dropper and you have to turn it around to put drops, out of which some fall pretty fast.
I took two tablets of Nat Phos 15 mins after eating. I tried putting it under my tongue, but it didn't melt away. So I sipped some mineral water and swallowed it.
[message edited by badshah19 on Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:36:01 GMT]
badshah19 last decade
Is it okay to swallow Nat Phos with water? Or let it melt down?
badshah19 last decade
♡ nawazkhan last decade
As I said I will follow Joes method for about 6 weeks at least before commenting on it.
So I have got:
* Nat Phos 6X tablets
* Arnica 30C liquid
So I have got:
* Nat Phos 6X tablets
* Arnica 30C liquid
badshah19 last decade
Well, it is yours and Joe's decision that I respect. But, in my opinion, 200C will help your problem.
♡ nawazkhan last decade
As I said If I see no difference intissue level by 6 weeks, then I shall be open to take 200c one. But I need time to see if helps me or not. It clearly helped the person whose case I linked in the first post. He started seeing decrease within 3 weeks..
badshah19 last decade
Badshah, you do realise that the case you linked, was a case of gynecomastia caused by allopathic medication. The patient stopped the medication and that is when the gynecomastia symptoms went away. This is exactly what you would expect to happen when a problem is merely a side effect of other drugs.
'I am not over weight I had an issue with gynecomastia (male breasts) from blood pressure medication I was taking (Spironactolone)and wanted to burn the fat. I have stopped all Allopathic medication totally and now control my blood pressure with vitamins diet and exercise'
It is important to be scrupulous about examining cases where 'cure' occurred to be sure what actually caused it.
This same patient had many other problems which remained uncured, and he was forced to seek treatment from other practitioners despite continuing to use Arnica daily. In fact he said that as soon as he stopped Arnica, his problems returned.
'I am not over weight I had an issue with gynecomastia (male breasts) from blood pressure medication I was taking (Spironactolone)and wanted to burn the fat. I have stopped all Allopathic medication totally and now control my blood pressure with vitamins diet and exercise'
It is important to be scrupulous about examining cases where 'cure' occurred to be sure what actually caused it.
This same patient had many other problems which remained uncured, and he was forced to seek treatment from other practitioners despite continuing to use Arnica daily. In fact he said that as soon as he stopped Arnica, his problems returned.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
But wasn't it caused by hormonal imbalance too?
I mean didn't those allopathic medicines cause a hormonal imbalance which resulted into gyno?
I understand about this, but I do want to try it out, i am desperate - I read somewhere else too that nat phos is good for gynecomastia.
On the other hand, even Joe is ignoring me, so I am really in a dillema.
Nawaz Khan, can I do pushups or should I refrain from exercises pertaining to chest?
I mean didn't those allopathic medicines cause a hormonal imbalance which resulted into gyno?
I understand about this, but I do want to try it out, i am desperate - I read somewhere else too that nat phos is good for gynecomastia.
On the other hand, even Joe is ignoring me, so I am really in a dillema.
Nawaz Khan, can I do pushups or should I refrain from exercises pertaining to chest?
badshah19 last decade
No the patient himself stated that it was caused by his medication, and he was advised (quite rightly) to stop it, and the symptoms went away. That is what happened.
Any side effect will usually fade once the medication is stopped. This is normal and expected.
There are actually 35 remedies listed in our literature that have been shown to cure gynecomastia. Nat-phos is not one of them. However any one of our 5000 remedies could cure it, if the general, mental and peculiar state of the patient matches the remedy.
Any side effect will usually fade once the medication is stopped. This is normal and expected.
There are actually 35 remedies listed in our literature that have been shown to cure gynecomastia. Nat-phos is not one of them. However any one of our 5000 remedies could cure it, if the general, mental and peculiar state of the patient matches the remedy.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
I see. Couldn't it be a new discovery by Joe as he claims? I mean Nat Phos is not shown to reduce weight either, but it apparently does?
Dr David, I really want to follow classical homeopathy but if there is a easier way out, why not try?
I mean I don't know how long I'll have to wait to find a similimum.. I am just fedup of all this.
Dr David, I really want to follow classical homeopathy but if there is a easier way out, why not try?
I mean I don't know how long I'll have to wait to find a similimum.. I am just fedup of all this.
badshah19 last decade
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